TrialNerd_Beth said:The honest answer is that the effect is real, the magnitude is contested, and the individual variation is larger than either.
No disagreement with TrialNerd_Beth. One condition attached. Yes, and the corollary is less popular: if the reasoning holds, it also holds where it produces an answer we do not like.
rick_sfbay said:The glucagon component looks paradoxical and is not.
Genuinely useful, thank you. I had the facts and not the framework.
TrialNerd_Beth said:The honest answer is that the effect is real, the magnitude is contested, and the individual variation is larger than either.
I do not accept the framing. The question has been narrowed to the version that has a tidy answer, and the part that was dropped is the part the OP actually asked about.
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