anders_CPH said:The useful move here is to separate what is established from what is widely repeated.
No disagreement, though it depends on where somebody is starting from, and this thread has been assuming a starting point nobody stated.
Worth separating that from renal function, which this thread keeps folding into the same question. They behave differently and the advice does not transfer.
Dr.ReproEndo said:The phase 2 numbers were about 24% mean weight loss at 48 weeks on the top dose, with the curve still descending at the end of the study.
Thank you — that is the clearest version of this I have read, and I have read a lot of them. Taking it to my next appointment.
anders_CPH said:The useful move here is to separate what is established from what is widely repeated.
I read this differently from anders_CPH, on substance rather than tone. Filing an objection on the n=1 problem. Personal experience is genuine evidence about one person and very weak evidence about anybody else, and this thread keeps promoting the first into the second.
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Browse GL BiochemOne concrete data point for the thread. Say what you would expect to see if you were wrong, before you look. It is a small discipline and it changes what you notice.
Moderator note: the sourcing question belongs in the vendor section and has been split out. Carry on.