The figures, for anyone assembling their own picture. Red flags, in rough order of how much they should worry you: no verifiable address, no batch numbers, prices far under market, vendor-commissioned tests only, pressure toward irreversible payment, and shipping with no temperature control.
That is the short version; the long version is somebody else's post.
A narrower follow-up, since the general answer is now clear:
How people are distinguishing a supplier having a bad batch from a supplier on the way out?
Dr.GutHealth said:Red flags, in rough order of how much they should worry you: no verifiable address, no batch numbers, prices far under market, vendor-commissioned…
There is a second half to this that has not been said yet. The useful checklist is about verifiability rather than presentation. Independent test results commissioned by buyers rather than by the seller, consistency across multiple batches over time rather than one flattering report, a physical address and a company registration that resolve, batch and lot numbers on the actual labelling, and a shipping practice that matches what the material needs. Everything a good-looking website provides is cheap to fake; none of the items above are.
Worth separating that from vendor vetting, which this thread keeps folding into the same question. They behave differently and the advice does not transfer.
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Went back through my own correspondence with an earlier supplier and the warning signs were all there in the replies, weeks before the quality changed. I was reading the product and not the behaviour.
EndoResFellow said:The useful checklist is about verifiability rather than presentation.
Right, and one flattering data point from a group buy is not consistency. Consistency means separate batches, separately commissioned, over months.
Correct me if the detail matters more than I have assumed.