BenResearch_OR said:The mechanism that matters here is not stomach emptying, it is central.
Filing a mild objection. Mild because I might be wrong; an objection because nobody has addressed the case that does not fit. The trial means are being read too generously in this thread. STEP populations were selected, supported, and titrated by protocol, and the real-world curves are consistently a few points worse. That difference is not noise, it is what happens when you remove the study infrastructure.
Worth separating that from alcohol, which this thread keeps folding into the same question. They behave differently and the advice does not transfer.
The figures, for anyone assembling their own picture. For anyone assembling their own picture: Tmax is one to three days, terminal half-life about 165 to 170 hours, steady state at four to five weeks, and subcutaneous bioavailability near 89%. Those four numbers explain most of the questions people ask about timing.
Dr.SportsMedIN said:The trial means are being read too generously in this thread.
There is a second half to this that has not been said yet. Reduced interest in alcohol is one of the most consistently reported off-target effects, and the mechanism is plausibly the same reward-salience pathway that quiets food noise. The practical part people get wrong is that tolerance changes: less food in the stomach, faster gastric emptying of liquid relative to solids, and a smaller body mean the same two drinks land considerably harder than they used to.
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View ResultsFollowing on from greg_boulder — and this may be the naive question:
Whether the change in tolerance is the smaller stomach, the smaller body, or something central, and whether it settles?
OP back with an update, since a thread like this is useless without one.
Update. I did go to 2.4mg in the end, and the honest report is that it bought me less than the step before it and cost me two bad weeks. Worth knowing rather than worth repeating.