A reference post rather than a discussion. Corrections are the point; I would rather this be right than mine. It is about cost and coverage, and it is deliberately narrow — everything I am not confident about is marked as such.
What is actually established
Denials are usually procedural rather than clinical, and the order that works reflects that. Get the denial reason in writing, because it names the criterion you failed. Then supply the documentation that criterion asks for — usually documented BMI with a comorbidity, or a failed prior therapy. Then appeal, and ask for a peer-to-peer review, because a prescriber talking to a reviewing clinician resolves a large fraction of denials that written appeals do not. Manufacturer copay assistance is separate and applies mainly to commercial insurance, and patient assistance programmes are means-tested rather than a discount.
The condition it depends on
Coverage criteria are plan-specific rather than insurer-specific. Two people with the same insurer and different employers have different rules, which is why "my insurer covers it" is not transferable information.
What I am not sure about
The narrow version of the question is what actually works on a prior-authorisation denial, as opposed to the list of things that sound like they should work. If the honest answer is that nobody knows, that is a useful answer and I would rather have it.
TomTeleRx said:Denials are usually procedural rather than clinical, and the order that works reflects that.
Financial impact of cost and coverage weight loss beyond medication cost:
- Groceries: SAVED $284/month (eating less)
- Restaurants: SAVED $174/month (fewer meals out)
- Alcohol: SAVED $124/month (stopped drinking)
- Life insurance: Premium REDUCED by $34/month (lower BMI)
- Copays: SAVED $64/month (fewer BP/cholesterol meds)
Net impact after medication cost: approximately BREAKING EVEN. The medication pays for itself through reduced food spending and healthcare costs. This surprised me.
TomTeleRx said:Denials are usually procedural rather than clinical, and the order that works reflects that.
I read this differently from TomTeleRx, on substance rather than tone. The affordability discussion here usually stops at individual tactics. At list price this class is out of reach for most of the people who would benefit, and no amount of appeal strategy changes that — it is a pricing problem wearing a paperwork costume.
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Browse GL BiochemDr.PeteFamMed said:The affordability discussion here usually stops at individual tactics.
Dr.PeteFamMed said:...compounded vs brand cost and coverage...
This debate comes up weekly and I think both sides have valid points:
Pro-brand: FDA-approved, manufacturing standards guaranteed, clinical trial data directly applicable
Pro-compounded: 10x cost savings, same active molecule, independent testing available, accessibility
My position: if you can afford brand or have insurance coverage, that's the gold standard. If not, properly tested compounded from a 503B pharmacy is a reasonable alternative. Neither side should shame the other.
RetaRick_CA said:Financial impact of cost and coverage weight loss beyond medication cost: Groceries: SAVED $284/month (eating less) Restaurants: SAVED $174/month…
Adding a me-too, because a thread of one person's experience is not much use. The detail I would add is minor and it is already implied above.