This gets cited here weekly, usually second-hand, so it is worth setting out what it does and does not establish.
Prices dramatically below market are the strongest single signal, and the reason is arithmetic rather than suspicion. Synthesis, testing, and cold-chain shipping have floors. A price well under the floor means something was skipped, and the two things that get skipped are testing and content.
Where I think it is weakest: the population was selected and supported in ways a real cohort is not, so I would read the effect size as a ceiling rather than an expectation.
The question I want answered is how people are distinguishing a supplier having a bad batch from a supplier on the way out. Practical detail welcome, however dull — the duller the better.
Figures above are from the primary publication rather than the press summary. If a number here disagrees with one you have, post yours and we will work out which of us is reading a secondary source.
HealthEcon_DC said:Prices dramatically below market are the strongest single signal, and the reason is arithmetic rather than suspicion.
Agreeing with HealthEcon_DC, and the qualification matters more than the agreement. The pattern that distinguishes a bad batch from an exit is behaviour rather than product. A bad batch comes with communication, a reshipment offer and a batch number. An exit comes with slower replies, pressure toward less reversible payment methods, sudden discounting, and the same reassurance repeated without any new information. The product tells you less than the correspondence does.
HealthEcon_DC said:Prices dramatically below market are the strongest single signal, and the reason is arithmetic rather than suspicion.
I disagree that testing history is decisive. It tells you what a supplier did when they were being watched. Continuity of behaviour under stress — a late shipment, a failed test, a complaint — is more predictive than any run of good results.
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Dr.BariatricHTX said:The pattern that distinguishes a bad batch from an exit is behaviour rather than product.
Same pattern here, and in the same order. The detail I would add is minor and it is already implied above.